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The four books mentioned above are written by 'Research Scholars of Minhaj-ul-Quran' under the supervision of Tahir-ul-Qadri so I take them the writings of Tahir-ul-Qadri. At least the responsibility of third class opposition lies on the shoulders of Tahir-ul-Qadri.

--- this is no adab, br Usman., Islam has certain etiquettes, and if i falter, i beg correction and you have done so. 'third class opposition' - if you are un-able to keep your un-bridled passions in control, let it be known that your way of argument is not reflection of 16:125, wisdom and goodly exhortation at least it is an outpouring of the heart of the dis-like you hold of the 'Other'. Did not the Quran say, that if the Prophet was harsh, people would have turned away? That's why i seek avoidance from such engagements.

This is just the beginning. Perhaps you have no respect for Tahir ul Qadri - he believes in One God and the necessary concomitants of faith, even the Quran states, that don't revile the idols of the un-believers, least they say something about your own Jama'at.

If you can maintain 1. Clearly delineate how you view other muslims, who view the Jama'at members as muslims 3. Don't engage in diatribes like 'third class opposition' (which i don't what it means) it will be a relflection more of MGA and your-self. Restraint and adab, and may God give me the hasana to practice what i preach, for that would make me a hypocrite eIqra. I am not in a position to give a detailed reply to your posts.

I am not feeling well. Gana bala songs tamil song 2016. I promised the respected members that I am going to start my thread 'Prophet Jesus: Dead or Alive?' By Monday max. Due to sickness I will try my best to start the thread tomorrow. --- before you do that, insha 'Allah, please answer how you treat other non Jama'atis who don't pronounce you non-Muslims (may God forbid), yet like me 1. Are not convinced 3.

Deny MGA's prophethood i don't deny the prophethood of Isa, and like i said before, MGA is so caught up on a matter that a lesser bearing than his OWN CLAIM TO PROPHETHOOD. The Prophet Muhammad, came as Rahma for the World - and there are plenty of Quranic verses that while being critical of the People of the Book, state their good deeds will not be wasted. Yet, as a muslim - who seeks a direct answer on MGA's own treatment of those who reject him, ignore him and don't consider his claims valid - where do you place me? Let's not be evasive - let's not jump on that the web site does not say, such and such regards, eIqra.

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Read this title, and consider, how the view the 'Prophethood' of MGA as a Prophet like all other prophets - in terms of accepting them - (i am not talking about law or non law bearing here). Importantly also read how they consider, the concept of Caliphate as an 'appointment', hence term abu Bakrs ® caliphate as an 'appointment'. There are several testimonies in this page that will given an expose to the consequences of not accepting the claims of MGA. There are clear indications of what it entails being a member of the Jama'at as a last resort, what their followers will also do is call their interlucotrs to mubahila, when there is a degeneration of argumentation and adab.

This is really an interesting chapter in muslim History and should be read as such. Peace upon those whom God has guided, eIqra. Very nicely done Usman. Your intentions stated in the beginnig was for shi'a authors against Ahmediyyah.

But as we can read you are very well aware of the shi'a books refuting Ahmediyyah. We can also see your intentions are promotion of your ideology and that of Ahmediyyah's on this forum. Though you are probably intelligent and knew that coming straight forward about promoting Ahmediyyah would be a failing endevor, so you slithered your way about. I respectingfully ask a deletion of this 'divereted topic' and perhaps Usman can restart the topic anew. 'Ahmediyyah Faith' maybe?